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X Ghoul · Jan 31, 2010, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Its already apparent in gvg, slowly creeping into ha, and now is going into RA. Once all the casual pvp'ers (ie. pve'ers) see this problem in RA we wont see any /care from anet which is a shame.

Trader of Secrets · Jan 31, 2010, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Yeah true that all games have bots no matter what, but wouldnt it be better if they actually did something about it, temp bans/permabans/watever. How hard can it be to actually spot a bot.

Axel Zinfandel · Jan 31, 2010, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by Braxton619

First of all, all games have bots. WoW has a ton of bots and other games as well.

I don't care too much about bots. You know there going to show up... why care about it? Stop being a baby about it.

The only bots that are really a problem are PvP bots, which apparently are absolutely ridiculous at interrupting.

Lord Dagon · Jan 31, 2010, 11:12 PM // 23:12

yea pve bots arent a problem(i dont see why anet would even ban ppl that use them in pve (i would use them if i knew w/ my luck i would get a perma ban))

but in pvp if ur a caster u cant even get a 1/4 second spell off w/out being interupted. So yea it would be nice if they did somehting about the pvp bots.. but just let the ppl use it them in pve.. this would provide a balanced way to play right?

thats jsut my opinion : pvp+ no bots at all
pve= you can use bots if u want but u dont have to.(would be nice if you could w/out the fear of getting permabanned forever ;p)

Hyperventilate · Jan 31, 2010, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Personally, I feel you can't have a double standard. "Bots in PVP are bad, m'kay!" immediately followed by, "But bots in PVE are perfectly alright!

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You don't get both, you either hate them or you like them. I think anyone who has used any sort of bot deserves a permaban, but that's unlikely to happen. The only thing you can really do is build around them. Expect the bots and try to take measures to counter them.

Arenanet doesn't seem to particularly care about the bots (Or else a lot of them would be gone), but not much we can do as humble players.

Karate Jesus · Feb 01, 2010, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Sadly, Anet doesn't care about PvP botting. I hate to say it so bluntly, but it's the truth. There have been bots in JQ and FA for almost 2 years now, and there's never been anything done about it. Only now, that other people are starting to notice the spike bots, interrupt bots, festival bots, etc. are people caring. Which is stupid.

Botting has been a problem for a while and nothing has ever been done about it. Why would they fix it now?

Missmelady · Feb 01, 2010, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Sadly, Anet doesn't care about PvP botting. I hate to say it so bluntly, but it's the truth. There have been bots in JQ and FA for almost 2 years now, and there's never been anything done about it. Only now, that other people are starting to notice the spike bots, interrupt bots, festival bots, etc. are people caring. Which is stupid.

Botting has been a problem for a while and nothing has ever been done about it. Why would they fix it now?

I believe the reason that people are caring about the bots now is because its more then a handful of people using them. Since qq forums has started to post links and such and guides for how to use these bots everyone and there mother have downloaded them. Pretty soon just to stay competetive in any form of pvp everyone that pvps will have to be running a bot.

Again as stated the only reason people are caring now is because the bots are now more widely available and known.

Karate Jesus · Feb 01, 2010, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

Again as stated the only reason people are caring now is because the bots are now more widely available and known.

The same bots have been widely available for over a year. They're just now becoming popular. Auto-click bots have been used for a looooong time in PvP.

Like I said, if Anet cared, they would have done something.

Tearz1993 · Feb 01, 2010, 02:26 AM // 02:26

my biggest issue is the lack of recognition that they're there from ANet.

tlee · Feb 01, 2010, 03:40 AM // 03:40

can't beat them? join them.. Personally, i don't care much about bots in any game... As long as i still get to play my game, i'm all good..

*lemming* · Feb 01, 2010, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

I believe the reason that people are caring about the bots now is because its more then a handful of people using them. Since qq forums has started to post links and such and guides for how to use these bots everyone and there mother have downloaded them. Pretty soon just to stay competetive in any form of pvp everyone that pvps will have to be running a bot.

Again as stated the only reason people are caring now is because the bots are now more widely available and known.

Availability goes hand-in-hand with widespread adoption.

Nerel · Feb 01, 2010, 06:07 AM // 06:07

I'm still stunned by people openly supporting the use of bots in the game, congratulations on your ethically challenged gamer awards... then you look at the guild tags, oh, I'm not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing surprised anymore. Go play The Sims, seriously.

Zehnchu · Feb 01, 2010, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Nerel

I'm still stunned by people openly supporting the use of bots in the game, congratulations on your ethically challenged gamer awards... then you look at the guild tags, oh, I'm not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing surprised anymore. Go play The Sims, seriously.

You've come late to the game, the majority of us have been complaining about the bots since 2005, and just about as long as using and outdated phrase "RED ENGINE GORED" it's like bell bottom pants that people can't just let it die and still think it's kewl (cool) to use. Anyways I digress.

There have been several huge bot bans then factions and more bots and we continued on reporting the old way before the /report option. After that update we the players over worked the Anet team handling all these reports. And then there's the pvp penalty that was also added at the same time.

And there was a very long debate over the /report which doesn't need to be rehashed.

It's not that none of us stopped caring it's that we are sick of all the arguments over and over and over and over, what are you going to add that hasn't already been said over the past five years every three months. If you are to busy yourself to bother to take a screen shots and send it in to anet or use the /report then then you are just adding to the problem of not doing anything to combat bots. That's about as best of any us can do....just keep reporting them and on the next.

Edit

h yeah
87 days till new zomg bot thread

pumpkin pie · Feb 01, 2010, 11:52 AM // 11:52

If ArenaNet is going to look into Bots in PvP, they better do something about sync in RA first

Tullzinski · Feb 01, 2010, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Like I said, if Anet cared, they would have done something.

KJ, have to disagree with you on that. Big difference between not caring and not being able to stop it. Firmly believe that at this time you cannot stop these bots with current tech/software.

Even detection is an issue, the api is used in other programs that are OK with ANET and you cannot tell the difference between them.

Have you even looked at the program that is being used? Hell even Microsoft makes this thing easier to use. If you can stop it I bet you can become a wealthy man.

Trinity Fire Angel · Feb 01, 2010, 04:22 PM // 16:22

Well... until Borat mentioned it in this thread, i had no idea that there were such things as interrupt bots. So i did some searching and found you can't name the bot either, the interrupt bot. I can;t name the site i found, but from what i read, ANet need to do a Game Revision.

I am a little disturbed after browsing the forums on this unnamed site and seeing the absolute number of hits and views on everything botting and injecting on all the different types of bots that exist, etc etc.

Teaseway on steriods.

StormX · Feb 02, 2010, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Why was my comment deleted? Bots in the snowball arena count as pvp bots do they not? I kept getting teamed with the same bots last night, that coupled with the many synch groups made earning gamer points a huge pain in the ***. I know nobody cares about bots in anywhere other than in so called "high end" pvp, but I think I speak for many others when I say that these bots significantly detract from my enjoyment of the game.

bitchbar player · Feb 02, 2010, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I was wondering is there also a cancel bot? Would be funny to run against an interupt bot.

Killed u man · Feb 02, 2010, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by bitchbar player

I was wondering is there also a cancel bot? Would be funny to run against an interupt bot.

With some simple recoding of the interrupt bot, you can make it essential a cancel bot. Right now, the interrupt bot can "see" every spell being cast on the intire game, and if not mistaken you can also see when spells are being cast on YOU. Tough I'm not sure of this, I AM sure that you can detect incomming projectiles, such as arrows, orbs, etc.

So every time a diversion is being cast on you, instead of having the interrupt bot using an "interrupt skill", you make it cancel your spell.

I know the interrupt bot, if you take away the artificial lag, can interrupt a 1/4s spell (even upwards to 6-7 fast casting, it can still get it if the bot has FC aswell), so it should be able to cancel your spells for you when "heavy interrupts" (Dshot, PD and PB) are getting used.

Tough this is only theorycrafting, I have not heard of such a cancel bot existing, but I do not see why it couldn't. Then offcourse comes the question: Interrupt bot vs Cancel bot, and you'll find that the interrupt bot still wins, simply because the Monk can not afford to cancel his spells. A monk cancelling his every spells means he's not going to prot/heal anyways, so the initial goal is still reached. (Which is to shutdown a Monk)

4thVariety · Feb 02, 2010, 03:09 PM // 15:09

If somebody was to acquire the bot and send it to ArenaNet, then I am sure they could look into it. But only knowing a bot exists, does not help anybody.

Produce tangible proof and ArenaNet can act. Use your social hacking skills to get to the botters, point out observer mode matches, if somebody has battlefield awareness he should not have.

Even though all forums ban the posting of bot links and delete them, does not mean ArenaNet would not appreciate knowing about them. Just send a PM.